I believe this is easy if pogačar himself states like 'I'm not a GC rider, I'm just a rider who wants to attack and ignite the race in every stage and entertain people' and people will be like 'owe he is just another peter sagan' otherwise the controversy will continue forever
It’s also a bit ironic now he is attacking Alpacin for not riding like he would have suggested ;-)
People accepted it from Sagan because he was a joker that wouldn’t take away the serious guys’ crust, Pog « takes away »* some hard working guys crust whilst unwittingly but jokefully rubbing it in their face.
* an imaginary guy coz he’s actually not won that many GTs but people treat him like he’s been unbeatable for half a lifetime
He's very much beatable & he knows that as well. Especially in GTs he knows it, people say 'he want to entertain us' but he want to collect time here & there in first week of the races so that he can leverage it on the last weeks. Why? coz he didn't trust himself in climbs. Entertainment* is a bluffing thing, those peoples are the one who says 'oh it's so boring' when he won solo.
That's also my take. if he's an entertainer, why burning of Majka, Bjerg... needed ?
Do what sagan did and be the real entertainer
Mr Blythe,
Knowing at what speeds most of these pros do most of their km in training, I find it a bit weird you call their racing speed « cruising along » as if riding at these speeds for 3 weeks wouldn’t affect their stamina.
If he was just cruising along, he’d not need any team at all, he’d also be able to win by a matter of hours instead of minutes if he wanted to and he’d have won the stages that he couldn’t quite manage.
For having to consider you an expert, I find your lack of precision rather unprofessional.
And what backs you up as an expert ? What's your racing resume other than an arm chair racer?
Firstly, I don’t claim to be an expert. Secondly, I have several advantages :
I don’t have any allegiance to anyone so can speak completely independently
I don’t have any financial motivation for saying what I say
I don’t have any reputation to protect
I don’t need to keep up my popularity
After that, my racing results are not so bad considering I only started in my fifties, thank you very much but more to the point, throughout my life I have had the pleasure of riding/training with some of the best (TdF winner, WR holders, several World tour past pros and plenty of others) which has meant many insightful discussions about topics like these where these people were far more free to speak their minds than in the press.
Other than that, there is this thing called Strava that many of these guys use and many fans look at so you can see pretty well how they are riding both during races and in training and race preparation and during the off-season. I am not the stalking kind or particularly fan of any ride so don’t follow anyone just for the sake of it, but knowing one of the average current domestiques in the Giro, I do see exactly how they prepare.
There are good reasons why pros do very little riding at speed (they will often only ride at an average of 30km/h on flattish terrain) and a lot at zone 2 and nothing during a GT is zone 2 so no-one’s condition comes away unscathed after 3 weeks of averaging 40-42 every day.
We have a guy who wins Monuments with flair and aggression AND has won two grand tours (and lost two) with flair and aggression. We historically love riders who gamble it all when trying to win (Contador has a particular reputation, for example) and dislike the clinical riders (Froome has a particular reputation, for example). I dunno, I enjoy it, but people love and hate the dominant teams in every sport.
Not quite, I was in Luxembourg at the Contador vs Schleck period and he was unanimously despised there despite many actually not liking one (or both) Schleck or even cycling.
Without using any particular words, there are often other factors that come into play and depending on which media and language you follow that’s plain to see to any neutralish observer.
That said, I have nothing against one or the other method, just like I don’t find watching cycling more boring than cycling alone for more than an hour :-)
Sorry but you obviously have never noticed Schleck fanboys.
They hated the fact Contador took advantage over Andy when he had a chain issue uphill and the argument why is valid, it wasn’t very gentlemanly at a time when cycling and the peleton still respected the notion of honour.
However, that validity fell apart because they (conveniently) forgot that a few stages earlier Andy had also taken advantage of Contador having an untimely issue (puncture I think) by attacking and gaining 1-2 minutes.
True. I did gloss over the 3 or 4 hardcore Schleck fans at that time.
It was so wonderful when Cadel Evans scalped Schleck Jr at the 2011 TDF.
Easy if you were anywhere else in the world, I was unfortunately surrounded by hordes of them, mostly opportunistic nationalists that knew nothing about the brothers until then.
I did get to know them, F is a bit weird, A was actually much more pleasant, funny and down to earth than his reputation projected. I also met Stuart O’Grady there (without knowing it was him) he never took me up on my invitation to show him round the country on a ride ;-)
Also recognised the 3 of them blatantly going through red one day, that was the day I realised Strava could be used to prove such things in court in disputes.
Fans having an opinion is a good thing! That's how you know people are engaged with eyes on the sport.
Getting tired of experts telling me their opinion without considering ours. Do they just want us to tune in and listen to them spout off? Guess they do.
So what color short did you prefer on Pogacar?
Another angle worth considering ;-)
All these people actually live off fans so should have to put up with them opinionating.
I’ve rarely heard anyone in football saying fans had no right to give opinions or criticise a player or trainer for mistakes.