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- now it gets stupid. why on earth should everyone be proud of their country or even love it? i am german ...Ketterechts17-08-2026
- Van der Poel has to be higher than Vingegaard there I’d say. Vingegaard counts as of now as obviously a top grand your rider but certainly not a stand out all time great, while VdP does stand out as an all-time great Classics rider. You can’t just stack everything too much towards the Grand Tour riders.AndrewK17-08-2026
- I think you will find THAT is not the reason because you find the same happens in all sorts of sports and other walks of life where there are no dangers. Celebrities, actors, musicians, athletes, etc. Most people (for many different reasons) don’t search very far outside their environment (job, village, nationality, race, social class, etc.) And yes, I’m saying it’s dangerous, I’m NOT saying you can make it safe but you can eliminate unnecessary risk without disproportionate costs. You don’t go climbing with a used rope or diving without backup, you don’t work on motorways without deviating traffic, you don’t touch electrical cables without switching off a fuse. The problem with incidents is that they usually occur because we’ve placed our trust in others assuming they’ve checked safety for us only to discover they cut corners and didn’t warn anyone. Read up on the Irish teen who died by electrocution in a shower in Greece and you’ll know what that means. No rider can go check safety during a race, if they could though, do you really think they’d accept racing down a dangerous swerving road knowing there was no-one ahead to block a car from entering at any time? As amateurs you often have to race on open roads where you’re told specifically to take care that sections are open to traffic, you NEVER see anyone cutting all the way to the inside of a blind corner at full speed in those situations, why? Because when you csn choose your own level of risk, you inherently decide better than what having faith alone can offer.Mistermaumau17-08-2026
- Equal but not the same, try thinking past the first degree, you have thousands of years of knowledge, education and progress within access to reach enlightenment.Mistermaumau17-08-2026
- Sorry to break it to you but this is hardly surprising as it’s pretty common. Most men would stay lazy assed f’s, lisers or dead if someone wasn’t behind them pushing them to be useful. Have a good look around you. Don’t forget your mother in your thoughts, or maybe you regret how you turned out, probably mostly thanks to her?Mistermaumau17-08-2026
- Don’t ask people to change their povs ;-)Mistermaumau17-08-2026
- And those 19 were probably spent plotting;-)Mistermaumau17-08-2026
- @mistermaumau if your point is that cycling is dangerous and no-one should want their loved ones to be in danger, well that is a completely irrelevant point because most of the peloton has long since accepted that. It's part of the reason why so many of the pros have spouses who are cyclists. Tadej Pogačar, Isaac del Toro, Giulio Pellizzari are three that popped into my head instantly
Rafionain-Glas17-08-2026 - Totally, You can go even further and criticise some of the biggest riders (some others can say they have little choice) but when you’re a superstar and can basically pick and choose who to ride for and under what conditions, what does it say about you (or the set-up) that you voluntarily continue to work for dubious people getting paid by immoral money? If your favourite riders accepts the past doping legacy then who are you to demand others should get ignored? Be a man and take things into your own hands, stop being a hypocrite, ignore them yourself, don’t comment or draw attention because the more you do the more you encourage their continued relevance.Mistermaumau17-08-2026
- Quite lucid today ;-) A bit exaggerated but agree to a point,Mistermaumau17-08-2026
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