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- Lipo also achieved 3rd in TDF. The Vuelta was ages ago and not against the top2. Since then he has crashed, fallen ill or had a bad day to lose >5 minutes or abandon. This track record is not good for a GT racer.. This year he lost to Del Toro, the helper of Pogi and Jonas by >2 minutes in 2 stages alone let alone 21 stages. Pogi Jonas will crack him like an eggshell.
- "The greatest of all time" Does Dopestrong mean the greatest doper of all time?
- Also to keep in mind, Merckx's numbers wouldn't have existed in these times, because his doping violations would have led to suspensions during some of his most successful years.
- Let's pull up the data and compare them at the end of their 7th pro year (so Dec 31, 2025 and Dec 31, 1971): they were tied. Each had won 10 Monuments, 2 world championships, and 5 Grand Tours. Looking ahead to the coming years, in Y8, Merckx won 3 monuments and 2 grand tours. Pogačar is heading toward 4 or 5 Monuments (that is just shocking to write), a grand tour, and another world championship.
Will Pogačar ever make it to 11 Grand Tours? I seriously doubt it. Will he have more Monuments and World Championships than Merckx? He might. I think it matters that he's doing all this in a harder racing environment with tougher competition from the best of the world, not the best of a subset of Western Europe. But he still has a few years to go before we can say more.
- With the GOAT debate in terms of physical ability it is impossible to know. Pogačar's numbers are way better than Merckx's but what would Merckx be like if he lived now? He might have been even stronger or he might have been nothing at all. That unknown cannot be solved unless the time machine is invented, so it is an irrelevant question.
Thus the only suitable question is with regards to the numbers, which is simple
- It's similar to how, for example, Felipe Orts podiumed at the WC in Benidorm because a generous Thibau Nys let him. The same happens in road cycling
- By the nature of cycling in our times and the races he wins against in the current field, I'd place Pogi as the GOAT once he wins another tour and a couple more monuments. So I kinda agree with Lance, but I think today is a bit early. At the end of next year (2027) we'll know.
- As people debate the tactics, should Van der Poel have dropped back to join Evenepoel, when there were no more than a few meters between them, so that they then worked together to rejoin Pogačar in front?
- Watching the race he did throw a bottle away. If it was for the gloves that was harsh. He rolled them up inside each other then waited till he came up to a group of spectators before throwing the gloves over to them. That was nice thing to do. I think a young lad got them.
- Where as people are quibbling the state of the riders and disqualification, why are we not pointing fingers at the uci for creating a route that crossed a potentially fatal accident? The route setters knew before the event that the riders would criss the tracks so why not plan accordingly?
I have never seen this (the train crossing) happen in any other event.
At the very least a pit or rest area should have been created so any riders would be held safely until a rime it was safe to cross? Then in my opinion each rider would be released with the tine advantage they had being applied with a staggered restart?
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