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- I wonder how much this has to do with the fact that top riders can become quite wealthy these days, vs what pros like RDV and Eddy earned back in their day? Seems like jealousy. Pog is world famous, very few outside Benelux even heard of RDV…Crashjames16-11-2025
- Again, Vlaeminck who?teohirs15-11-2025
- no, history repeatsabstractengineer15-11-2025
- If we look at the major wins of grand tours, monuments, and world championships, then de Vlaeminck is sitting on a total of 11, all of them monuments, and Van der Poel is sitting on a total of 9 (8 monuments and a world championship). If we add cyclocross, well, we have stats there, too. (Pogacar, tied with Coppi at 17 total grand tours, monuments, and world championships, is way beyond de Vlaeminck by now.) Sometimes I think that what's happening is a guy was astonishing in what is by now his long-gone youth, and has waited decades for someone to surpass him, got used to the idea that nobody would (other than his buddy Eddie who was never normal anyway), and now this upstart Pogacar and this narrow-focused Van der Poel show up, doing things de Vlaeminck and Merckx never dreamed of (like winning 14 of the last 16 monuments between just 2 people) and suddenly he has to recognize that his decades of being on top might not mean what they used to mean. That has to be hard on anyone.RidesHills15-11-2025
- An aside based on your last sentence: A friend recently pointed out that the second fastest people on the planet up all these astonishing climbs were... the sprinters. Even in the grupetto, they're climbing like no normal human can.RidesHills15-11-2025
- So predictable, same procedure as every year but honestly, do you hear anyone complaining, asking for more reporting on cyclocross, mtb, scouting, sponsor moves, anything? When you see how deeply football fans will reach to extract every last nugget of info, how every minute detail gets analysed to death, I would hate to have to define what constitutes a fan.Mistermaumau15-11-2025
- Besides the point isn’t it. He isn’t comparing bijes and knowledge and training from back then with today, he’s hypothetically being born 25y ago so getting all the same advances and possibilities. That makes judgement a whole lot more complex and maybe pointless. It’s like imagining what Egyptians or Romans would be able to build if they had access to all we now have.Mistermaumau15-11-2025
- Do you really think you need to protect those riders, or that he will hear any of the noise people make?Mistermaumau15-11-2025
- I wouldn’t call repeating what he’s done in the past thinking out of the box, it’s just disappointing that in all that “analysis” the real solution has not even been mentioned. In any case, he will do as he feels and I’m sure he’ll be given the liberty so there’s absolutely no point in trying to turn this into a riddle unless there’s going to be betting on this.Mistermaumau15-11-2025
- You can tell not much is happening in pro cycling when this site is running grievance articles featuring ancient pros and pundits. Is it a coincidence that the complainers seem to be mostly Belgians criticizing non Belgians?Crashjames15-11-2025
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