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Mas has had a great start to the Vuelta, but as long as Primoz doesn't crack, there are some stages that suit him more and there's still a 33km TT coming up. His form was a question mark coming into this race, but my money is on him by the end of it. Six GT career wins sounds like a picture perfect road to retirement. He really is the best guy to never win the Tour.18:57
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awp
That is such bad luck, I've had three collarbone breaks in my life. I hope he bounces back quickly.29-08-2026 17:55
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awp
If you want to be in the break away in this Vuelta, you better be fifteen minutes down on GC.27-08-2026 22:35
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lol17-08-2026 15:44
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awp
It depends on what a team is trying to get out of him. Tadej has stretched our imagination of what is possible because of he's just so good. If Tadej weren't here and it was business as usual, like in the past, Jonas would still only be focusing on gt's and probably being paid a lot more. But Tadej is here and he has clearly changed the dynamic of what is possible in reality, which means the number two guy in cycling is being paid much less.17-08-2026 15:43
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I can agree with you but I would have seen a Primoz/Jonas situation kind of like a Wiggins/Froome situation. The best usually rises to the top. Jonas may have even won more because he would have been attempting multiple gt's in a single season probably instead of chasing Tadej for a Tour win.17-08-2026 15:39
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Yes, no doubt about it.16-08-2026 23:15
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awp
The top cyclists in the world race the Tour, he was firmly second before his crash, just as he's been in other years unless he was winning it as he did in 2022 and 2023. He's clearly number two in the world. He is getting older though and he will lose his capability a little more and more as time progresses over the next few years, some would say he already has. But, as of today he is clearly number two in the world. No one else is even close.16-08-2026 21:46
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awp
Leave the bias out of it, he's number two by a wide margin.16-08-2026 20:20
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If he doesn't want to do a race he shouldn't, he is the second best racer in the world, he took a grand tour way back in the Giro. That said I think he wants another gt or two and he's certainly capable of taking another Vuelta, Giro or both, then he'll probably let it go and retire at the end of 2028, he will also keep trying to win a Tour as long as he's racing. Of course, if he is capable of taking a Tour de France over the next two seasons, he should take the money, jump teams and race for two more years after 2027 or 2028. Another piece of context, if Richard Plugge has his way, Seixas will be wearing Visma colors next year. That may also change Vingegaard's outlook as well.16-08-2026 01:05