It has a very direct professional benefit as well. He still rides with his riders at winter training camps to connect with them on a different level. "You have a completely different conversation on the bike than face to face… the conversation is so much easier — especially with the new guys coming into the team, it’s much easier to know them."
"We are looking where we can do better, or spend more to be better," he says about the means of fighting such strong teams as
Jumbo-Visma. "We all come to the same conclusion that if you have more resources to spend, you can pay more attention to details; you can put more people on the nutrition side; you can put more coaches into coaching the riders."