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Pogi is an outlier. You cannot prove an outlier using the statistical data of average pros. If he releases the data, it will only cause even more suspicion. In 2020 TDF he was dropped by Roglic in the mountains. So how does he do the TT where in the flats he nearly beat Tom Dumoulin and beat everybody else on the climb by a ton. No matter what Pogi is too much of an outlier which can be proven by data
Bolt was an outlier, for some people it can’t exist. Funny thing is 3 generations later, a lot of amateurs reach the level the average pro had. Ok, maybe counting from today it might be 5 or 6 generations because we won’t all have access to the equipment and staff and assistance pros now need to perform.
Releasing data doesnt solve the issue of credibilty. Because what ended to be is people making intepretation of the data which leads to innuendo.
If he really want to improve his team why don't he just ask UAE of Visma to show them what do they do to their team?
I feel sorry for anyone who was born after the doping era carrying the sins of the past. Their hard work and achievement always viewed as suspicious. I'm glad I'm not a pro cyclist so I don't need to keep proofing my innocent everytime I'm doing something remarkable.
In every sport, records are broken and more-performing athletes emerge every year. And no one questions them. It's sad that certain people INSIDE the cycling are the first to create and increase suspicions about the sport they claim to love . And they do it without any prove, driven by frustration and envy, because they're always the losers to throw shit at their sport. It's never Vingegaard or Van der Poel; it's always the losers who act this way. Shameful. (sorry for my bad english)
It's kinda crazy that people who make a living in professional sport don't understand how competition works. You have the sport. You have pharmaceuticals which may improve performance. You test for as many as you can. If you pass the tests, you keep your result.
It's only in cycling that a substantial minority think that all results should be provisional for 15 years. In nearly every other sport, people watch and enjoy what they see, or if they don't like what goes into producing what they see, they don't watch.
Sorry? Have you not noticed how many winners and others have been cancelled post event, not least from the Beijing and London Olympics? If that doesn’t qualify for practice generalisation in sporting procedure, what is, we’ve even gotten to the stage of pre-emptive barring under suspicion of possible doping. If you’re going to look at a problem like this seriously, don’t just look at what makes media headlines in the parts you pay attention to. There is probably a wiki list (very long) of athletes who were disqualified for substance irregularities post event, and each had the opportunity to their long and costly process to defend themselves, it just doesn’t make the news unless you’re already a megastar (in which case you’d be extremely stupid nowadays to risk it, but then again, many people, especially in sport, fall in or close to such a category.
Sounds like a witch hunt! " And then we should keep the samples of his tests for the next 10 years, when scientific research will have made further progress," he concluded."
Throwing shit on the wall and see what sticks...
The 10 year thing is already implemented since years in sport, why should cycling (probably worst offender) be exempted? “ Today, under the World Anti-Doping Code, samples can be stored for up to 10 years after their initial analysis and still retain the same legal impact if analyzed further and prosecuted.
WADA President Witold Bańka said: “WADA is fully supportive of this initiative and commends the IOC and ITA for their work in this area. The long-term storage of samples for further analysis has proven to be an important tool in the protection of clean sport. As detection methods are constantly being improved and updated, retaining samples for 10 years means that those who have cheated cannot rest easy for a full decade after they have been tested.
“It is a requirement under the 2021 International Standard for Testing and Investigations (ISTI) that Signatories must have a written strategy for storage and further analysis as part of their testing programs and I am confident this policy will have a further impact in the years to come. Furthermore, this storage and further analysis program goes towards meeting Anti-Doping Organization’s compliance requirements under the ISTI and provides a cost saving at the same time, as the cost for the transfer and storage of samples is covered by the IOC.”
The further analysis of samples collected during Beijing 2008 and London 2012 has so far produced more than 130 Anti-Doping Rule Violations, which clearly highlights the effectiveness of such a program to provide more effective detection while also acting as a deterrence.”
It's easy to dismiss doubters. We need someone like David Walsh who dares to ask the hard question. In the mean time, I wouldn't worry too much about Tadej. Whether he dopes or not, at least, he's not a terrible person like LA Doper.
Do you think that making results provisional for 10 years makes for good sport? Or in any way remotely fairer, or safer?
Someone like David Walsh, who was the point person in the Sky Team coverup? When there was money and fame in bringing down Armstrong, he went for that. Then he sold that crusader image to Sky. And then renounced them. The guy has made more money from athletes and doping without ever once competing himself, having to take drugs, or even stand for a single principle.
He is no different than Novitzsky, who was pivotal in the Armstrong investigations, and helped put Marion Jones in jail. Now he is full-time in the coverup business for the UFC.
Actually, I’ve not noticed that fans have even noticed results are provisional so as far as the sport itself goes, I wouldn’t worry too much. Obviously some riders will miss out on celebrating but then these days, they’re all paid so well that it’s quite a small price to pay. Andy Schleck certainly didn’t get to party like he was used to when he received Alberto’s trophy and titles, nevertheless, he’s in the books and I’m sure he feels like and gets treated like a tdf winner. CATCHING dopers is good for the sport, though at the moment I’d have no idea who to go looking for.
" I do not want to insinuate doubts, but.."
Oldest backhanded comment in the books. It's not Pog's fault that all the French riders are currently crap.
Why just Pogacar, when he highlights the superb results of others annd compares it to 5 years ago (when carb-based feeding was treated differently, for whatever that is worth). Imagine asking Vingegaard, who recovered incredibly quickly from his awful injury. His climbing times were better than ever before. Does that mean he’s doing something nefarious? I doubt it. But I am pretty sure he had some TUEs that aided his recovery. I am okay with that, like I’m okay with using the cars to come back after a mechanical. If transparency is asked for, it should be asked for more broadly. That gives away a competitive advantage so it’s never going to happen.
Your last point is the most important one to consider. A riders data is private for a reason, and it's obvious that the reason that riders don't openly share it is to not give away any vital information that could benefit the competition.
Whining from a team boss whose riders never win - nothing to see here
This guy is a loser. Innocent until proven guilty. I’m not naive but this is insulting to the rider.
Riders keep this information to themselves because other riders could create a strategy around a weak point, and he has weak points, all athletes do. I'd agree to it though if they offered forty million bucks.
If dope made Pogi into Pogi, it could just as easily turn another good rider into Pogi.
Some people are blessed with a Vo2 of 90+ and small frames.
If MVDP was 10kg lighter, he'd fly up mountains too.