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- His strategy should be simple Only attack Lipo, follow Roglic if he attacks
- Strategy for bora is simple. Lipo to Onley Ass. Rogla to attack
- oh, i didn’t mean his career is LITERALLY OVER, like, that he’s not going to ride his bike, get paid, etc. I’m really sorry i was unclear about that. that’s my fault. what i meant was really more figurative, as in, the drama that preceded this TDF showdown with pogačar won’t ever happen again, he’ll never win another grand tour that pogačar also wants to win, he’ll never be a relevant a part of any conversation about “who’s going to win” race x, y, or z if it’s a race pogačar is lining up for. that’s all i meant, because the suggestion that jonas no longer has a team or a salary or a bike is, as you rightly observe, complete nonsense.
- yeah, nonsense at all. Jorgenson left his captain alone in the middle of the fight, trying to win the stage. Bad.
- Jonas’s salary doesn’t seem out of line. If Pogi isn’t at a race Jonas typically wins
- Pogi is insanely dominant for sure. But the part about Jonas’s career being over is nonsense. Jonas’s career will go as long as he wants to race. There is still plenty of demand for the second best GT rider in the world.
- why did Jonas not try with Jorgensen at the valley after taking so much risk to bomb to the bottom? What is the point of waiting for his team after all that? and Matteo running away alone.. they look like strategising on the fly, they were better off stopping at one of the chapels to pray they win the yellow than actually trying to come up with a strategy.
- The big difference: Jonas had 2 days NO, Tadej 0 days NO
1- Stage 5, flat time trial (Jonas lost 1' 05")
2-Stage 12, climbing Hautacam (Jonas lost 2' 10")
total lost: 3' 15"
In addition, Tadej won 48" in bonus.
2 bad days in the Tour de France, by a super champion like Jonas means that something was very wrong in the preparation. Maybe they denaturalized Jonas improving his "sprinter" skills... Visma has a lot to think about.
- Victor - you are so far off base with your comments it's ridiculous! Why should Tadeg have to attack anymore? He doesn't ! He's playing the long game of taking yellow to Paris and not just trying to win every fricking stage!
- Visma is riding in hope that they can remix their 2022 tactics and bait Pogacar into beating himself...
But the good thing about Pogacar losing the way he did is that he learned his limits and is both stronger and smarter...
Vingegaard's career becomes more interesting. This man tends to shut his season down after the TdF... Perhaps he will need to start preparing for the GTs that Pogacar does not target and racing beyond the summer because he is on a
really big salary for his current level of performance and he has too many bad days to ever beat a healthy Pogacar over 3 weeks ...
Funny how Visma paced all day two days running and lost time at the line on both days..
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