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- I wonder whether Jonas is happy with his compatriot sharing this information.
- 8. Visma, Ineos, Lidl Trek, Red Bull-Bora, and maybe one or two more teams, also have the resources for top training... they just don't have Pogi.... maybe the biggest athlete in the history of sports.
- It’s true , must be so hard to get up every day and train and suffer, knowing you’ll never beat Pog again. Especially if you hate being away from home and family.
- 7. The best team money can buy that has all the resources for top training, and the ability to control any race they show up to, with multiple guys with Pog at the top of key mountain passes.
- Once again, critique of Ferrand-Prévot without mentioning the surgeries she had. Have riders ever fully returned to their past level after iliac artery surgery? (Honest question! I would be interested to learn more. I'm thinking of Aru right now and can't think of others.)
- @Miguel, typically the phrase is "his heart isn't in it," but I really like "his hearth isn't in it" because it speaks to the greater household, the family, the place where Vingegaard clearly shows such contentment and joy. If he retires in order to enjoy that life, I wish him the best. Home and hearth matter.
- For a long time, Pogačar was compared to Vingegaard in the grand tours, for good reason. At the same time, he was compared to Van der Poel in the classics and monuments, for good reason. He's been better than both in their specialties since at least 2024. What's amusing to me is that the combination of these two skillsets (the explosive burst on a steep long climb) reminds me of a third great rider of the post-Froome era, Roglič. That gets me thinking about how Vingegaard fits into the realm of great riders.
Only 30 riders have won 6 or more total of grand tours, monuments, and world championships, and Roglič, Van der Poel, and Pogačar are 3 of those 30. Vingegaard has always been a general classification specialist, an incredibly good one who is on his own very short list of winners of all three grand tours, but he's still 2 away from joining that list of all time winners. The other riders since 2000 on this list of 30 big winners are Tom Boonen, Fabian Cancellara, Alejandro Valverde, Alberto Contador, Vincenzo Nibali, and Chris Froome - a mix of classics and grand tour riders with few winning both kinds of races. Is Vingegaard, with his two Tours, Vuelta, and Giro, of the historical caliber of these riders? Not quite (Nibali has two monuments to go with the same grand tour wins). Yes, Vingegaard beat Pogačar twice, that matters, but wins are wins, and unfortunately he's riding in the Pogačar era.
- Pogi is my compatriot and I know a little more about him then every day commentators. I have inside information. Pogi's estimated VO2 max is around 90 to 96 mL/kg/min, some are saying almost up to 100, which places him among the highest ever suggested for an endurance athlete. However, it's not the single reason he dominates. His true advantage comes from a combination of:
1. An exceptionally high VO2 max.
2. The ability to ride at an unusually high percentage of it for long periods.
3. Outstanding cycling efficiency.
4. Rapid recovery.
5. Exceptional race intelligence. He knows exactly what's happening in each race, so on many occasions he changes the teams plans and tactics between the race and put's his domestiques in a different position. If that fales, he goes by himself and says "bye bye... see you in the douches."
6. My country of Slovenia is widely recognized as one of the top countries in the world for athletic success per capita. With a population of just around 2. million, we consistently rank near the very peak of global sporting achievements. Our sports stars are: Pogi (the G.O.A.T. of cycling), Primož Roglič (a former high profile professional cyclist that used to be a ski jumper), Luka Dončić (NBA star), Anže Kopitar (NHL star), Janja Garnbret (the greatest competitive sport climber of all time), Tina Maze (a legendary alpine skiing champion with multiple Olympic gold medals and WC), Domen Prevc (the best ski jumper in the world), Nika Prevc (Domen's sister, also the best female ski jumper in the world... 3 years in a row)... Need I say more !!!
- Never again will Jonas beat Pogi in TdF. Yes, maybe a stage or two (maybe Pogi will gift him, like he gifted Remco), but not the overall win. If Pogi is healthy and doesn't crash, Jonas never wins. It's obvious, and Jonas knows it. What can he do, reality check, producing his best numbers ever but can't beat him? How do you beat an advanced alien? NO CAN DO !!!
- well yes as it is as I thought then. Vingegaard dont really like cycling cause thats part of it. I see him retiring very soon, his hearth isnt in it anymore and he just seem to decline too. Seems like its over for Jonas
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