Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado outsprints Lucinda Brand for dramatic Flandriencross Hamme victory
Cyclocross
Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado has taken the win at the latest round of the X2O Badkamers Trofee at Flandriencross Hamme, outsprinting rival Lucinda Brand for a dramatic victory.
For the first time really since her cyclocross return, Zoe Backstedt was right at the front over the first couple of laps, getting off to a brilliant start. On lap 3 though, the Welshwoman was pulled back and then passed, firstly by the national champions of Italy and the Netherlands, Sara Casasola and Lucinda Brand, plus Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado.
Heading into the final couple of laps, the trio of Casasola, Brand and Alvarado looked to be determining victory between them, but Backstedt still wasn't completely out of the picture in fourth. On the penultimate lap, Casasola attempted to string things out, but the bell rang, all three leaders here still locked together. Alvarado led the entire final lap, with Casasola on the wheel and Brand hanging on behind. In the finale though, Brand buried herself, dropping the Italian and getting into the slipstream on the final straight. Alvarado held on though to take the victory in a thriller.
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I think this was because there were junior women in the race. If a race has junior women am pretty sure it has to be less than 45 minutes. I believe a rule is coming in for next season that will fine organisers that don't put on a junior women's race a fine equivalent to the prize money. So fingers crossed we should see more longer elite and junior women's races from next season.
I counted 16 riders under 24 out of 43 that started. Once was only 16 ! Two of the top riders are Zoe and Schreiber and both under 23 yet that have done 50 min races in the past with the elites so I think it's just bad clock management. Let them race 50 freakin' minutes! One more lap could have made a big dffierence most times in the podium and winner.
Backstedt and Schreiber are not juniors they are under 23. There were I think about 7 or 8 juniors in this race. Under the current rules a race that has juniors in can't go over 45 minutes. The winning time was 43.53 so the timing was correct. The organisers are in the wrong because they should be putting on a juniors race and then we wouldn't be in this situation as the timings for the elite race would be 50 minutes, not 45.
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