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Criticism from experts for "wheel sucker" tactics of Jonas Vingegaard on stage 9 of 2024 Tour de France
CyclingMonday, 08 July 2024 at 10:29
Jonas Vingegaard continues to show an incredible shape, given the circumstances, at the 2024 Tour de France. As the first day is reached the still recovering Dane sits 3rd overall at 1:15 off the Maillot Jaune of Tadej Pogacar.
On the gravel stage 9, Vingegaard was in full defensive mode after an ill-timed mechanical saw the Team Visma | Lease a Bike leader on a teammate's bike and the unrelenting pace not allowing the Dane any opportunity to switch back to one of his own. The tactics of the defending Tour de France champion on the gravel of stage 9 was not without criticism however.
"If it looks like a wheel sucker, it rides like one and it acts like a wheel sucker, then it is a wheel sucker. Signed, Jonas Vingegaard," wrote former commentator Maarten Ducrot on his official X (Twitter) account.
He wasn't the only one either with Tadej Pogacar himself expressing confusion at Team Visma | Lease a Bike tactics. "At some point, Remco, Jonas Vingegaard and I went up the road. I think it was a great opportunity for us to put some time on the rest of the GC favourites and secure the podium, but Jonas refused to cooperate," he recalled in his post-stage interview. "I think Visma is just focusing on me and underestimating the other GC contenders. They just follow me, without thinking of Primoz Roglic or Remco."
There was some defence of the Dane however, with the experienced Danny Nelissen sticking up for Team Visma | Lease a Bike. "Vingegaard doesn't let himself get carried away, riding along wouldn't have been smart. It's not his bike and he has a lot of teammates in the group behind him," the analyst explains in quotes collected by Wielerrevue. "Vingegaard does that well. Staying on the wheel and letting Pogacar race. It's doable in the third week. Team Visma | Lease a Bike does not see Evenepoel as a major competitor, otherwise they would have worked together. It's Pogi versus Jonas and the other way around."
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maria2024202424-11-2024 - I think the other side has said plenty, given comments about her reputation like what Renz said above. Perhaps this is her chance to speak up against that reputation? I have no idea but her comments seem pretty human, even if each person has their own version of the story.RidesHills24-11-2024
- Give her a team built around her with no competing leaders, like Pogacar has at UAE or Vingegaard has at Visma (seeing how Roglic left), and I wonder how Vollering would do. She’s already so good, and a team dedicated to her could make her even better.RidesHills24-11-2024
- Those injuries, an ability to manage pain and push himself, probably a load of TUEs to help him get back from an awful moment, and competing that hard without the long exercise base that was the norm - no wonder he was exhausted. We’ve now had two consecutive seasons of the second place rider having an injury that interrupts training, and it shows to what level their bodies are tuned for the insane task of winning the Tour. I certainly hope both (and their teams!) are healthy next year. It would be a first, after 4 years.RidesHills24-11-2024
- Winners seem to be like this. Win or lose, it is always on to the next thing. They don’t celebrate the big win, they don’t worry about the painful loss. They move on. It’s an amazing skill. But to be able to ride (and win) while not being able to walk? That’s a level of pain management that boggles my mind. Of course they have it, given what they put their bodies through, but it’s just crazy.RidesHills24-11-2024
- Poor Demi. But she behaves the same way when riding for the national team. Bring me my tiny violin.Renz24-11-2024
- good pointsmij24-11-2024
- Yes, please tell us based on your superior expertise about why JVs training and race schedule is wrong 🧐Crashjames24-11-2024
- I'd like to hear what the other side has to say.mij24-11-2024
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