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- "Seixas is the wildcard, protected by inexperience but exposed by his own results."
That is beautifully put.
- Less km, less altitude gain but, everyone picks their own and there is no definitive definition so enjoy your own.
- They are just doing what we’re doing
- An anglophone understands
- Exactly, it’s an experiment, to find the right formula.
As for avoidance, they meet at the Tour every bloody time, how is that avoidance? You can just as well say TP avoids MVDP by not doing cyclo in winter. Does it make sense? No, each rider has their goal, training, test races and build up towards goals.
- Jonas' Giro win won't be any more or less "meaningful" based on what he does in a different race. He won the Giro, end of story. If he also wins the tour, then he won both. If he comes second, then he won the Giro and came second at the Tour. Again, Pogi came second at PRB, does that make his prior win at MSR "less meaningful"?
- I hear what you are saying. I don’t agree that Jonas is avoiding Pogacar and I certainly don’t agree that his victories don’t count but there is also a saying that “To be considered the best, you have to beat the best”. Jonas’s wins have come when the best cyclist was not racing. I agree that Pogacar’s spring calendar is heavy on the monuments and other one day races while JV is more focused on Tours. The most likely path they will cross each other is the TdF. If Jonas beats Pogacar in that race then he definitely is the best and his Giro victory would carry more weight than what it is currently. However, if Tadej Pogacar wins then automatically it would mean that the Giro win for JV was less meaningful.
- Dylan ruined him.
- The thing about this train of logic is that people accuse riders like Jonas of "avoiding" Pog, which means that their victories "don't count" because Pog wasn't there. BUT, by that logic, that means that Pog's victories also shouldn't count as much if his biggest rivals are also absent. Either everyone's races "mean less" or a win's a win, and you can only beat who is in front of you. Unless some perfect start-list emerges that pleases all the critics, and all riders start completely injury-free, and remain that way the entire tour - then people will ALWAYS find some way to justify some argument that x or y win isn't a "proper win" - it's absurd. Eddy Merckx raced a significantly narrower peloton of mostly northern European riders, with everyone doping their asses off - but if you say these wins don't stack up to the modern riders, people throw a fit. "he can only race who is in front of him!" - EXACTLY.
- All it takes is a glance at the cycling pro stats to see that the startlist quality of the 2024 Giro was significantly lower than the 2026 one. So Pog beat a far weaker field than Jonas just did.
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