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- Introduce a paywall and your traffic will dry up immediately
- before, during, and after every tour, somebody brings up the reducetheteamsize issue. it is not even an idea anymore and the arguments always the same, repetitive and redundant. maybe they pull it out every year to fill the news vacuum between tour and vuelta?
- A number of riders (Rooks, most prominently) have acknowledged using EPO in the '89 Tour. The French prodigy Fignon said that he was tempted, but declined. Though he admitted to using all the other PEDs common to that era, so who knows?
Fignon also speculated that PEDs may have contributed to the form and aggressiveness of his cancer, but his own doctor disagreed. Again, who knows?
Yes, you are right: EPO was approved for human trials in the mid-1980s, and approved by the FDA in mid-1989 for medical use.
- Not for the quality you offer.
- So you are going back to the late 1990's to prove a point, which you have not proven. I thought you said facts over feelings, new guy..
- It's ok, in America we have freedom of speech, so you are covered.
- As I said, it's using a few examples that don't compile to an end result but it's certainly close.
Concerning bikes from then to now, fatter tires now, they are faster, more aero frames now, a tiny amount faster, weight is the same. They've been doing altitude camps for decades, Lances teams included. Nutrition is better, but lance was a nutrition extremist back then, so other than in race fueling there's not a whole lot of difference.
You are missing the first big piece of evidence, that when Lance was 22 his Vo2 system was recorded at 81.2 ml/kg/min.
Miracles and fantasies don't happen in procycling. If they did I could have taken my 66 Vo2 system, trained my eyeballs out (which I did anyway) and won the Tour in my twenties.
- That is a silly apples to oranges comparison. You give Pogi and all the rest the advantages of modern bicycles, training, fueling and "altitude camps' but compare that to what was being done twenty years ago. Riders from then moved forward in time with all the modern advantages would be just as competitive now. They would just have to adjust to the modern doping techniques compared to what they did then.
- Researchers (e.g., Norwegian Ole Kristian Berg, Pedro L. Valenzuela, Samo Rauter, Tim Podlogar and colleagues) have estimated Pogačar’s VO2 max in the high 90s (around 91–96 ml/kg/min on average, potentially up to 96–102 ml/kg/min) based on his climbing performances in the Tour de France and other races. Feelings don't play into it, only data.
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