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Pogi's weakness seems to be that he can't succeed in the immediate post-tour races (maybe he'll show that he can this year?). If you compare his track record in the races after the Tour de France but before the Canadian classics with that of Vinge, they do not reflect his class in other parts of the season. In 2020 he didn't race anything during that period; in 2021 he was surprisingly beaten by Richard Carapaz in the Olympic Road Race, finishing 3rd, and DNFd in the Bretagne Classic; in 2022 he DNFd in Donostia Klasikoa and finished 89th in the Bretagne Classic; in 2023 he finished 3rd at the WCh RR, being unable to match Mvdp's acceleration despite the Dutchman having had his least impressive Tour de France, and then he went on for a stinker at the WCh TT. In 2024 and 2025 Pogi abandoned racing during the immediate post-tour races entirely.
With Vinge it's a different story entirely - in 2021 he finished 8th at Donostia; in 2022 he didn't race during that period; in 2023 he backed up his Tour level at La Vuelta; in 2024 he won the Tour de Pologne and in 2025 he won La Vuelta.
In short, Pogi hasn't performed well in the immediate post-tour period. He's put on some good performances but anyone who says that those reflect his true class probably wouldn't be thinking straight. For that reason, if he wants to assert himself as the GOAT, he needs to win Donostia, La Vuelta, Tour de Pologne and the Bretagne Classic etc. Sometimes, with the debate about Tadej surpassing Merckx, we focus only on the races where he's been on a top level but not won them, but we forget about the races where he's never managed to get on top form anyway.- He’s beaten Tadej multiple times including LBL( Tadej didn’t finish) WC Road Race WC TT, San Sebastian etc. Unfortunately for Remco Tadej has kept getting better.
- You're reaching, Remco has some great wins within great fields. He consistently beats Tadej in TT's, but he isn't a pure climber. He's also a year young than Tadej. If he keeps working hard and developing he could maybe take a Tour in three or four seasons time.
- He will make top five in the Tour as long as he doesn't crash out before then.
- He's not in great climbing form right now, still a little pudgy. If he can reach his 2024 form he will be in the top five at the Tour.
- Do you understand anything about people?
If everyone rooted for the same person, sport would completely die as would the betting industry and much more.
- It's possible Remco has improved but that others are improving more. For all his qualities I just can't see him as a climber.
- It’s all too easy to sit in judgment, yet I seriously doubt any of us could hold the man’s wheel for 30seconds even if he were riding a penny farthing…. Still, haters gonna hate eh?
- To your sadness...or happiness...this will never happen. Maybe Del Toro can beat him on occasions, but that will happen very rarely. Cyclists like Pogi come along every 50 years. Del Toro is to Pogi what Mini-Me is to Austin Powers. CAPISH?
- Some new alias will pop up here ;-)
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