OCexile

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OCexile

yup.

31-07-2026 11:58

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and you as well.

30-07-2026 12:55

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it just strikes me that there’s so much conjecture and speculation in your method that the conclusions — unless i’m misunderstanding you — seem maybe a little sketchy. you acknowledge that vO2 max is just one factor, but then just as quickly toss that aside to conclude that armstrong would finish an hour down to pogacar PURELY due to a foundational disparity in “giftedness” or “talent.” i think most of us would agree that mvdp appears to be a pretty gifted rider. mathieu van der poel’s vO2 max is about 83–85, but there certainly seem to be “other factors” that are doing some pretty heavy lifting. mvdp ALSO has an even lower maximum heart rate than armstrong did, 191 against armstrong’s 200, so there’s nothing magical about that piece of the dutchman’s physiology either. one could reasonably speculate then that van der poel’s secret sauce lies the slowness of his lactate production and the speed with which his body clears it. this may very well have been the case with armstrong as well. you note that pog’s time on plateau de beille a couple years ago is six minutes faster than armstrong’s from twenty years ago, as if that time gap represented an absolute measure of rider physiology rather than twenty years of progress in training and technology. by that reasoning then there are club racers in 2026 posting times that make them “more gifted” than merckx and anquetil. is just EVERYBODY who can get on a bike today and beat a time posted by armstrong (or indurain, lemond, merckx…) MORE GIFTED than all those others by whatever their new margin of victory on the clock is? that means a boatload of guys out there on zwift who are much more “gifted” than bernard hinault ever dreamt of being. and since times are always getting faster that means that competitors (in every single sport) are becoming progressively more and more GIFTED rather than just being the product of the evolution of their sport and all its supporting changes in science, etc? i suspect you don’t actually mean to argue that. but if that’s not the case you’re making then i’m having a hard time understanding what is

30-07-2026 07:09

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(funny)

29-07-2026 15:32

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