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- He doesn’t owe him shite coz in your scenario which could have happened it could also have played out very differently subsequently. Jonas, disgusted, retires from cycling, everyone loses interest in GTs, cycling revenue drops, Pog’s contract renewal includes a significant cut, he regrets having gone along with the momentum of that day. You can NEVER tell how things play out in the long run. Those rubbing their hands waiting on first cycling to take on the UCI should start thinking a bit deeper about possible outcomes, do we want to provoke what transpired in golf (tribal chaos) wrestling (farce), football (player “revolt”), boxing (too complex to summarise and now even athletics where the old authority is “having to” defend defectors not being respected by the challenger?
- And then there was one, he didn’t even have to speak, you just knew, cross him and you’d be visited in a “back alley”. The “good” old days. Unfortunately there’s still plenty of this going on in diluted form in cycling, and in general society this is only bound to increase again with the examples a lot of current visible leaders are showing. And then we blame kids for no longer showing respect???
- The whole reason that media hoovers up every pundit’s opinion (often out of context)and why those are paid, is to create discussion, controversy, argument, attract more viewers and (often without being aware themselves) allow bookies and others to exploit the differences of opinion. What would be the point of sport if everyone predicted the same right outcome in advance, in fact, what would be the point of anything, even total luck events like lotteries, everyone would just continue as if nothing had happened.
- Jorgenson personally pissed in Pogi's Wheaties, so he will be given no quarter. made snide comments after the Dauphine time trial, made a deliberate move to block Pogi from getting a feed in an earlier stage and talked some smack in the tour too.
Pogi's point was the Visma riders should have dropped back to bring Jonas back, not attacked to get in the break leaving Jonas unsupported and alone.
- In all fairness, can you imagine what would have happened has UAE and Pogacar decided to follow the attacks of Jorgenson? With the cross winds and echelons that formed, and the distance left to ride, Vingegard might easily have found himself 20 or more minutes down, without any teammates to help. It would have been effectively the end of his tour, no doubts. Pogacar did him a huge favor by waiting up. This was no minor incident, compared to Pogacar coming off his bike with 3 km to go, shipping his chain and hopping back on to chase. In that case, the GC group were not racing, the breakaway had won the stage, and the best Visma could have hoped for, was a measly handful of seconds, and only if Pogacar didn't catch back anyway, which he probably would have. Vingegard's position, caught up behind a crash with 130 km to go, isolated, on a windy day, as a slight rider, was potentially tour ending disastrous, especially with his own teammates willing to do all the attacking work that would have pulled Pogacar to the finish had he chosen to follow. Vingegard owes Pogacar a big thank you, whether he understands it or not
- Some riders were already laughing at Nils for screaming like an idiot and nobody listened to him. The other rider's salary is not paid by UAE
- Bruyneel is banned for life, and must stay banned for life!
- Tadej was climbing Mont Ventoux with the nagging memory of his previous defeat to Jonas on the same climb, where he cracked and was dropped. Vice-versa for Jonas. Naturally, Tadej would be extra cautious this time around. Considering that Jonas said he was feeling 100% pre-stage, and Tadej feeling a bit down with sore throat, I think the result was favorable for Tadej, even more than it is for Jonas, although I cannot fault Jonas for feeling rejuvenated. The forthcoming confrontations would certainly be reason to feel excited about this TdF.
- Contador is just as much a fraud now as he was while riding. Wrong every time but still gets paid.
- Cracked tadej can still chip in few seconds from Jonas here and there
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