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- In the case of the EC, Ciccone was the only other real contender from the top 15 in the WC, and for me his loss to Remco in Quebec showed he lacked the mentality to finish it off. But luck is part of the game, and it's favouring Remco right now.
Re others benefiting from Pogi being out of the picture, imagine if Pog had crashed out of the Tour instead. If Jonas had then won, his grand tour record would have been on a par with Pog's. If Remco had beaten Jonas, the sports world would have gone crazy. So much depends on luck. Perhaps a better measure would be the strength of the competition beaten, but nobody seems to be in the mood for that.
- OK, can I say something? We would not be having these conversations if Pogi was in all the races... the WC and EC. He would have won both of them by a big margin and the only comments would be: "OMG, how boring it was. Pogi is "killing" cycling." ... Capish?
- That was a close finish!
- I’d like to see the actual photo finish with the black (not white) line which they use to determine the winner. Ciccone’s photo sure does make it look questionable, but it doesn’t show the following…
Which, from what I understand, it is the ‘9 o’clock’ of the wheel, crossing the black line first, which is used to determine the winner.
- I think Pogačar is going to have a really hard time becoming Belgian road champion. I mean, nothing seems impossible with the guy, but still.
Kidding aside, this is honestly an incredible set of achievements. It's not the usual set of cycling achievements in terms of specific races, but seriously, all the championships he can, in road and TT?! And he's how young? That's really remarkable. Congratulations, Remco Evenepoel!
- if you consult the second picture in ciccone's instagram post, which seems to show the actual finish line in top view, it rather looks like a ciccone win! if they do not retract their decision pro remco only, they loose the least bit of credibility they still have. you can argue about how to make racing safer, but you can't argue about a decision that completely lacks proof. they don't even share how far away from the real finish the image was taken. if they would, every 2nd semester physics bsc student would be able to simulate how many cm the delayed bike throw of ciccone would have resulted in. and we are not even talking cm or mm here! shame on the uci (is it uci or a europe specific association?) for their lack of transparancy!
- Interesting you claim Visma isn't a top 3 team anyomore yet their UCI rank is ...#3. Lidl Trek is only #5. Visma has 2 riders in the top 10, Lidl Treks top rider, Pederson is 16th. Their big Grand Tour signing, Ayuso is ranked 38th and has been a bust so far.
- Yes, it's fairer that way. A bit like Adam Bradać and Dušan Rajović in Poreć the other day, when they both were declared winners. As I said on the other thread, the uncertainty of the finish line - and the red line may not be on the right part finish line - is much more than that non-existent winning margin.
But if they show the finish line here, they have to fo it everywhere and we know the problem there
- I truly appreciate the way that Ciccone in no way takes away from Evenepoel, praises him throughout, and casts no doubt on his fellow rider. That’s character. Also, he has every right to make these demands. I thought yesterday that the photo finish was clearer than it turned out to be, and now I’m amazed that they called it when there is enough doubt. Back in the day they had ties at moments like this. I wouldn’t mind seeing two European champions in the coming year, after a race that good.
- From the photo it's literally a millimetre difference. The uncertainty of the finish line is considerably more
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